Meetings/Telecon2016.09.22

Event details

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-ccm/event.php?event_id=41644

Agenda

  1. Roll Call
  2. Scribe nomination
  3. Review minutes of previous meeting at https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-ccm/Meetings/Telecon2016.08.25

  4. Review action items
    1. Martin to update proposal for issue 27; David and Martin discussed and agreed on the need to separate authorization for a change vs. an actual change or change proposal
    2. Martin: Raise separate issue to address containership - how to associate a set of change requests to a 'parent' or container - splitting it out of issue 27.
    3. Nick & Jim to review IBM change management link types in commonly installed process packages, and add terms and desirable support levels to issue 28.

    4. Martin to do the same for PTC.
  5. Discuss and vote on Configuration Management issues 14, 21, 22, and 30
  6. Continue review, discussion, and voting on Change Management open issues 27, 28, and 29
  7. Any other business

Minutes

Edited chat transcript from room: oslc-ccm 2016-09-22 GMT-08:00

[07:02] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): David volunteered as scribe.

[07:02] Nick Crossley (IBM): List of attendees: Brian Steele (Persistent), David Honey (Persistent/IBM), Jim Amsden (IBM), Martin Sarabura (PTC), Nick Crossley (IBM)

[07:03] Nick Crossley (IBM): Review minutes of previous meeting at https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-ccm/Meetings/Telecon2016.08.25

[07:04] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Minutes approved.

[07:05] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Actions from previous meeting. Martin to update issue 27 - done.

[07:05] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): New issue https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-32 raised.

[07:07] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Review relationship types. Martin has listed ones used in PTC.

[07:08] Nick Crossley (IBM): Config mgmt issues 14, 21, 22, and 30

[07:08] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-14

[07:11] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Changing history to make previous baseline point to earlier baseline when a baseline is deleted was regarded as undesirable. Nick updated the text to say that clients should be prepared to deal with broken links.

[07:12] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Implementations are free to leave a skeleton resource to preserve provenance, but this is optional.

[07:16] Nick Crossley (IBM): Vote to accept proposal with the addition of a sentence: "Servers should add the property oslc:archived=TRUE on a reduced form of a partially deleted baseline."

[07:17] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Jim seconded

[07:17] Brian Steele (Persistent): +1

[07:17] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1

[07:17] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): +1

[07:17] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1

[07:17] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1

[07:17] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Carried

[07:17] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-21

[07:21] Nick Crossley (IBM): If a configuration context is not provided or implied, the server MAY provide a default configuration, or the request MAY fail. A provider MAY include an <code>oslc_config:configurationSettings</code> link in the OSLC Service resource, referencing an <code>oslc:ConfigurationsSettings</code> resource. That resource MAY contain an <code>oslc_config:defaultConfiguration</code> property whose value is the URI of the default configuration to be used by that service. An <code>oslc_config:defaultConfiguration</code> property with an <code>rdf:nil</code> value implies there is no default configuration, so requests with no context MUST fail. Servers MAY support a PUT on <code>oslc:ConfigurationsSettings</code> resource as a way to set the default configuration. Servers MAY provide other ways for users to set the default configuration.</p>

[07:22] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Nick: Will change text to indicate MAY reference a single configuration (as a default).

[07:24] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Vote on proposal above with correction.

[07:24] Nick Crossley (IBM): Vote to accept current text plus clarification that there can be only one.

[07:24] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Jim seconded.

[07:24] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1

[07:24] Brian Steele (Persistent): +1

[07:24] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1

[07:24] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): +1

[07:25] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1

[07:25] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Carried

[07:25] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-22

[07:27] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Nick's comment of 29th Aug: See minutes of meeting on July 14 - we are not convinced this proposal is sound.

[07:34] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Example: OSLC simple query. Response could contain info for multiple resources and several data providers.

[07:34] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): What context would be returned?

[07:35] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Defer the issue rather than reject?

[07:36] Nick Crossley (IBM): Vote to defer this issue.

[07:36] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Martin seconded.

[07:36] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1

[07:36] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): +1

[07:36] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1

[07:37] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1

[07:37] Brian Steele (Persistent): +1

[07:37] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Carried

[07:38] Nick Crossley (IBM): While navigating between resources, resources or links of certain types may indicate that a different context is to be used when following links from that resource. Any such semantics should be defined by the specifications for such resource and link types; none are defined by this specification.

[07:39] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-30

[07:40] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Each Activity resource: MUST be persisted by a server (including over a restart) for a minimum of 5 minutes after completion SHOULD be persisted after completion for 5 minutes plus the length of time the Activity was active

[07:49] Nick Crossley (IBM): Nick to reword and expand to cover deletion of activities

[07:50] Nick Crossley (IBM): Minimal retention time should be 24 hours

[07:50] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Nick: Will update proposal so we can vote in later meeting.

[07:52] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-27

[07:55] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Martin: Ordering of children?

[07:55] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Leave ordering to be discussed in https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCCM-32

[07:59] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Martin: Seconded

[07:59] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1

[07:59] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): +1

[07:59] Brian Steele (Persistent): +1

[07:59] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1

[07:59] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1

[08:00] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Carried

[08:00] Nick Crossley (IBM): Meeting adjourned

[08:00] David Honey (Persistent/IBM): Meeting adjourned

Meetings/Telecon2016.09.22 (last edited 2016-10-18 18:34:00 by ndjc)