Event details


  1. Roll Call
  2. Scribe nomination
  3. Review minutes of previous meeting at

  4. Change Management topics
  5. Configuration Management topics
    1. Review changes made for issue 35
    2. Discuss issue 36
  6. Any other business


Attendees: Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics)2, David Honey (Persistent/IBM), Jim Amsden (IBM), Martin Sarabura (PTC), Nick Crossley (IBM)

Chat transcript from room: oslc-ccm 2017-03-09 GMT-08:00

[07:09] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: David volunteered as scribe

[07:09] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: List of attendees: Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics)2, David Honey (Persistent/IBM), Jim Amsden (IBM), Martin Sarabura (PTC), Nick Crossley (IBM)

[07:10] Nick Crossley (IBM): Review minutes of previous meeting @

[07:10] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Minutes approved

[07:10] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Change management issues

[07:11] Jim Amsden (IBM): OSLCCCM-27 New type ChangeAuthorization needed for CM spec

[07:11] Jim Amsden (IBM): OSLCCCM-28 Need a decomposition reference

[07:11] Jim Amsden (IBM): OSLCCCM-29 References to before and after states of affected resources

[07:11] Jim Amsden (IBM): - [ ] OSLCCCM-32 Ability to associate a set of change requests to a parent change request

[07:11] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:11] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:11] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:11] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:12] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Issue 27: Martin, reviewed Jim's changes. So can be marked as resolved.

[07:12] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Issue 28: action item for Martin.

[07:15] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Related to action item to review IBM's usage of out-of-the-box link types.

[07:16] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Nick: Has data from dev teams, but information split across multiple responses and needs about 1 day of work to consolidate.

[07:18] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Potentially and are duplicates. Issue 32 does discuss issue of ordering.

[07:19] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Recommendation is to avoid use of rdf:List, but use properties in referenced spec, and sort on those properties.

[07:19] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: referenced resource (not spec)

[07:20] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Needs some non normative text to explain how a client can order data for presentation.

[07:23] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Martin will mark issue 28 and 32 as completed.

[07:24] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Issue 29: Dependent on changes made to config management - will review later in meeting.

[07:25] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Martin to include comments in resolution of 28 &32.

[07:25] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Martin: Normative part of spec is now ok for issue 28/32.

[07:26] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Also issue 27.

[07:26] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Martin will raise separate issue for any non-normative changes.

[07:31] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: RTC work item states are readonly and cannot be used to make a state/lifecycle trasition.

[07:32] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Jim and Nick to work on getting RTC work items more in sync with spec.

[07:33] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Action item: Nick and Jim to follow up on actions and RTC work item state transitions.

[07:34] Jim Amsden (IBM):

[07:34] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Spec is in finalization, so not quite finished.

[07:39] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Action item: Nick to send call to TC to do from-scratch review.

[07:39] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Moving to config management issues.

[07:40] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:40] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:40] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Issue 35: Resource shape for creating streams

[07:41] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Proposed text is now in draft spec.

[07:43] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Nick added requirement that if a CM provider requires a property on create streams, that property must be in the resource shape.

[07:44] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1:

[07:45] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Section 9.3, 3rd sentence: Any properties required on new streams or baselines not defined by this standard MUST be described in resource shapes referenced by oslc:resourceShape properties on the container.

[07:46] Nick Crossley (IBM): Nick proposes we accept the changes in the proposal for issue 35

[07:47] Nick Crossley (IBM): plus the additional sentence pointed out by David

[07:47] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: David seconded

[07:47] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1

[07:47] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: +1

[07:47] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1

[07:47] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1

[07:47] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Proposal carried.

[07:48] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Change set relation to before and after states from change management.

[07:48] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: New section 11.

[07:49] Jim Amsden (IBM):

[07:49] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Action item: Martin to view that section, and follow up by email or in next meeting.

[07:58] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Action item: Nick to write a note to discuss issues for further discussion and email TC members.

[08:00] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Note is for and how you track change set lifecycle.

[08:00] David Honey (Persistent/IBM)1: Meeting adjourned

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